Tourshi (Tourshou)- Armenian Pickled Vegetables

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• There is one Armenian store here in Glendale that sells homemade pickles. They add fresh tarragon to the brine. Gives it an amazing flavor.

• Would love to find the real dough for kadayif (or khaydeef), can anyone help? I've seen a lot of different recipes and what they describe is not the dry, shredded-wheat type product I used 40 years ago with Mom. They describe it now as a phyllo (filo) type dough and that definitely was not that type of dough. It was a tough shredded wheat, yet pliable, a really thin piece of 'dough' that looked like angel hair pasta when taken out of the package. I've soaked what they say in recipes, which is the phyllo (filo) dough, in a custard-type sauce before, but it ends up being really soggy. That is not the 'dough' we used 40 years ago. Any ideas on what it is exactly and where I can find it. I would love to make some. We used to put cheese in there, perhaps Munster or maybe just Armenian cheese, that I do not remember either, and I'm afraid Mom isn't much help to me any longer with regards to where to find things like this. I would love to make some though and send to her. She sure loved the choreg I had sent her and would just love to do again. It's not fun being out of state.

• Anonymous,
  If you could tell me more -such as where you lived 40 years ago, and where you live now, I will direct your request in a blog item so more readers will see this. You've tried the pre-packaged kadaiff dough without success?

• Do you process your tourshi in a hot water bath? I have made it 3 times now (slightly different recipien than yours) and have been experimenting. First time I processed it, second time I did half processed and half without, this time I did not process any. Some of my jars got milky and "bubbly", so I think they fermented. I got nervous and discarded them. I had made the brine in 2 batches, so I think I may have made a mistake in the 2nd batch.

  Curious to learn from your experience. I am trying to recreate my grandmothers results, but I have a long way to go :)

  • It sounds like the batch that was bubbling did in fact start to ferment. This in itself isn't an issue. Fermentation in salt or brine is how things like sauerkraut, kimchi or kosher-style dill pickles are made. Indeed, there is a product that I just purchased that lets you easily ferment things in mason jars without having to worry about mold. (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01DJVVORE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) They are amazing.

    But I'm curious ... how did the jars that you processed turn out? Everything I've read lately about preserving and pickling is that processing is essential to ensuring safe storage of foods. In the case of this recipe, I'd say you could let the pickles ferment for the requisite time (a week?), then, drain off the brine, bring it to the boil, add it back to the jars, and then process them. A read in a book I bought on preserving that doing so shouldn't affect the texture of the pickles significantly. Though if you keep the fermented pickles in the fridge without processing, they should be ok as well.

    • I had the same question - to use the canning technique or not. The recipes I have from old cookbooks published by local church groups all just say "seal the jar". I have tried many batches with canning or just twisting the cap on. I have thrown away entire batches because of the fermentation that seemed to have gone wrong. Now I do a brief time in the boiling water. Long enough to make a good seal and brief enough to ensure the veggies are still crisp.

• I have now logged it - the "unknown" question about Tourshi in a hot water bath was from me.

• great post but..a couple of fresh dill sprigs, and one or two( or more) hot fresh or dried chilis plus some garlic is more tradtional armenian addtion than pickling spice

• my grandmother used garlic salt vinegar and curry. she also added coriander flat leaf parsley for extra flavor. the veggies, any u want. it was ready in 2 days sealed jar.

• my grandmother used garlic salt vinegar and curry. she also added coriander flat leaf parsley for extra flavor. the veggies, any u want. it was ready in 2 days sealed jar.

• Do you pour HOT brine over the vegetables? or wait brine cool, then pour over the vegetables?

  • Good question, thanks for asking! The answer, pour hot brine over the vegetables.

  • Thank you very much for answering my questions!

• Do I Seal jar after brine is cool to room temperature or right ways after pouring hot brine over the vegetables?

  Thanks.

  • Pour hot brine over the vegetables which are stacked in the jar(s); allow veggies to settle in the hot liquid. Then seal the jar(s) while still hot. Store at room temperature as mentioned in the recipe. I hope this helps; good luck!

  • I am so glad to hear from you! I sealed the jar while the liquid is warm. Next time I will seal jar right after I pour hot liquid to jar.

    Thank you very much!